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But numbers should be used with caution. And the Mayas had another year for their beginning:

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.. This pot depicts one of the Hero Twins (One-Ahaw in the Classic texts and One-Hunaphu in the K'iche' Popol Vuh) and a great bird who is trying to land in a huge ceiba tree heavy with fruit. This mythical bird is Itzam-Yeh, Classic prototype of Wuqub-Kaqix, 'Seven-Macaw', of Popol Vuh fame. In that story, in the time before the sky was lifted up to make room for the light, the vainglorious Seven-Macaw imagined himself to be the sun. Offended by his pride, the Hero Twins humbled him by breaking his beautiful shining tooth with a pellet from their blowgun. This pot shows One-Ahaw aiming at the bird as he swoops down to land in his tree. As Itzam-Yeh lands on his perch, the text tells us he is 'entering or becoming the sky'.

This particular 'sky-entering' is not the one mentioned in the Palenque text. It is the final event that occurred in the previous creation before the universe was remade. Before the sky could be raised and the real sun revealed in all its splendor, the Hero Twins had to put the false sun, Itzam-Yeh, in his place. If the date on this pot corresponds to that pre-Columbian event, as we believe it does, then Itzam-Yeh was defeated on 12.18.4.5.0  1 Ahaw 3 K'ank'in (May 28, 3149 B.C.). After the new universe was finally brought into existence, First Father also entered the sky by landing in the tree, just as Itzam-Yeh did ...

... In three magnificent texts at the site of Koba, scribes recorded it as one of the largest finite numbers we humans have ever written. According to these inscriptions, our world was created on the day 4 Ahaw 8 Kumk'u. On this day all the cycles of the Maya calendar above twenty years were set at thirteen - that is to say, the cycles of 400 years, 8,000 years, 160,000 years, 32,000,000 years, and so on, all the way up to a cycle number extending to twenty places (2021 * 1360-day year).

In our calendar, this day fell on August 13, B.C. 3114 (or September 20, -3113 in the Julian calendar). To understand what this means, we need a little scale. The thirteens in this huge number act like the twelve in our cycles - the next hour after twelve is one. Thirteen changed to one as each of these cycles in the Maya calendar was completed, therefore, we have the following sequence:

 

13. 13. 13. 0. 0. 0. 1. 5 Imix 9 Kumk'u (Aug. 14, 3114 B.C.)
13. 13. 13. 0. 0. 1. 0. 11 Ahaw 3 Pop (Sept. 2, 3114 B.C.)
13. 13. 13. 0. 1. 0. 0. 13 Ahaw 3 Kumk'u (Aug.7, 3113 B.C.)
13. 13. 13. 1. 0. 0. 0. 2 Ahaw 8 Mak (May 1, 3094 B.C.)
13. 13. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 3 Ahaw 13 Ch'en (Nov. 15, 2720 B.C.)
13. 13. 13. 0. 0. 0. 0. 4 Ahaw 3 K'ank'in (Dec. 23, A.D. 2012)
13. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 10 Ahaw 13 Yaxk'in (Oct. 15, A.D. 4772)
1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 7 Ahaw 3 Zotz' (Nov. 22, A.D. 154587)

Each of the years, called a tun by the Maya, in these dates is composed of 360 days. If we return to the Creation date with its twenty cycles set at thirteen, we see that it will take 41,943,040,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000 tuns for the highest cycle to change from thirteen to one ...

3114 + 2012 = 5126 = 11 * 466.

The Mayan date for November 15, 2720 BC could possibly correspond to the position of Gb1-10 and to the time when the Sun reached the season where the Eagle ended:

NOVEMBER 14 15 16 (320) 17 18 (*242)
Gb1-9 Gb1-10 Gb1-11 (240) Gb1-12 Gb1-13
ε Pavonis, θ Sagittarii (302.3), γ Sagittae (302.5), μ Pavonis (302.7 τ AQUILAE (303.8) 20h (304.4)

η Sagittae (304.2), δ Pavonis (304.4)

SHANG WEI (Higher Guard) = κ Cephei (305.2), θ Sagittae (305.4), TSEEN FOO (Heavenly Raft)  = θ Aquilae (Ant.) (305.6), ξ Capricorni (305.8) TSO KE (Left Flag) = ρ Aquilae (306.3)
January 17 18 (383) 19 (*304) 20 21
°January 13 14 15 (*300) 16 17 (382)
SOLSTICE 'December 22 23 (*277) CHRISTMAS EVE 25 (359)
"December 7 8 9 (*263) 10 11 (345)
NAKSHATRA DATES:
MAY 15 16 (136) 17 18 19
DRUS = χ Carinae (119.9) ω CANCRI (120.2) 8h (121.7)

χ Gemini (121.0), NAOS = ζ Puppis (121.3)

ρ Puppis (122.0), HEAP OF FUEL = μ Cancri (122.1), ζ Monocerotis (122.3),  ψ Cancri (122.6), REGOR = γ Velorum (122.7) TEGMINE = ζ Cancri (123.3)
July 18 19 (200) 20 21 (*122) 22 / 7
°July 14 15 16 17 (*118) 18 (199)
SOLSTICE 'June 22 23 (174) ST JOHN'S DAY 25 (*96)
"June 7 8 9 (*80) 10 (161) 11
Ga2-25 Ga2-26 Ga2-27 (57) Ga2-28 Ga2-29

For their older date, August 14, 3114 BC, we should try to go (3114 - 2720) / 71 = ca 5 glyphs ahead in the rongorongo text compared to AUGUST 14, and this could have been where the Sun was thought of to have reached Arcturus:

... The Sun-god thence climbed up the mother-mountain of the Kushika race as the constellation Hercules, who is depicted in the old traditional pictorial astronomy as climbing painfully up the hill to reach the constellation of the Tortoise, now called Lyra, and thus attain the polar star Vega, which was the polar star from 10000 to 8000 BC ...

AUGUST 14 15 16 (*148) 17 (229) 18 19
Ga6-6 Ga6-7 Ga6-8 (148) Ga6-9 Ga6-10 Ga6-11
MUPHRID = η Bootis (210.1), ζ Centauri (210.3) φ Centauri (211.0), υ¹ Centauri (211.1), υ² Centauri (211.8), τ Virginis (211.9) AGENA = β Centauri (212.1), θ Apodis (212.5), THUBAN = α Draconis (212.8) 14h (213.1)

π Hydrae, χ Centauri (213.0), MENKENT = θ Centauri (213.1)

Neck-2

ASELLUS TERTIUS = κ Bootis, κ Virginis, 14 Bootis (214.8)

Al Ghafr-13 / Svāti-15 / TAHUA-TAATA-METUA-TE-TUPU-MAVAE-6 (a pillar to stand by)

15 Bootis (215.2), ARCTURUS = α Bootis (215.4), ASELLUS SECUNDUS = ι Bootis (215.5), SYRMA = ι Virginis, λ Bootis (215.6), η Apodis (215.8)

October 17 (290) 18 19 20 21 (*214) 22
°October 13 14 15 (*208) 16 17 (290) 18
'September 20 21 EQUINOX 23 (*186) 24 25 (268)
"September 6 7 8 9 (*172) 10 11 (254)
NAKSHATRA DATES:
FEBRUARY 13 2-14 (45) 15 16 (*332) 17 (413) 18
ι Arietis (28.0), λ Arietis (28.2), υ Ceti (28.8) ALRISHA = α Piscium, χ Phoenicis (29.2), ALAMAK = γ Andromedae (29.7) Arku-sha-rishu-ku-2 (Back of the Head of Ku)

2h (30.4)

κ Arietis (30.3), HAMAL = α Arietis (30.5)

ALKES (α Crateris)

η Arietis (31.9) ξ¹ Ceti (32.1) χ Persei (33.2), θ Arietis (33.3), MIRA = ο Ceti (33.7)
April 18 (473) 19 20 (*395) 21 (111) 22 23
4-14 °April 15 16 (471) 17 (107) 18 19
'March 22 23 24 (*368) EQUINOX 26 (85) 27
"March 8 9 10 (*354) 11 12 13

And for their final date December 23, AD 2012, we could position ourselves (2012 - 1842) / 71 = ca 2 glyphs earlier than at December 23. This was when Menkar (α Ceti) culminated at midnight and when the Full Moon reached the Left Foot of Castor (outside 'the male square'):

... On one side there was the limited, the odd, the one, the right, the male, the good, motion, light, square and straight. On the other side there was the unlimited, the even, the many, the left, the female, the bad, rest, darkness, oblong and curved ...

OCTOBER 16 17 (290) 18 (*211)
Ga8-6 (209) Ga8-7 Ga8-8
Winnowing Basket-7

18h (273.4)

NASH = γ Sagittarii (273.7), θ Arae (273.8)
ZHŌNGSHĀN = ο Herculis (274.0), π Pavonis (274.6) ι Pavonis (275.1), POLIS = μ Sagittarii (275.9)

MENKAR (α Ceti)

December 19 (*273) 20 (354) SOLSTICE
°December 15 (*269) 16 (350) 17
'November 22 (*246) 23 24 (328)
"November 8 (*232) 9 10 (314)
NAKSHATRA DATES:
APRIL 17 (107) 18 (*393) 19 (*29)
6h (91.3)

ν Orionis (91.4), θ Columbae (91.5), π Columbae (91.6)

ξ Orionis (92.5) Al Han'ah-4 / Maru-sha-pu-u-mash-mashu-7 (Front of the Mouth of the Twins)

TEJAT PRIOR = η Gemini (93.4), γ Monocerotis (93.5), κ Aurigae (93.6), κ Columbae (93.8)

June 20 (*91) SOLSTICE 22 (173)
°June 16 (*87) 17 (168) 18
'May 24 (*64) 25 26 (146)
"May 10 (*50) 11 12 (132)
Ga1-27 Ga1-28 Ga1-29

 

Are these my perceived correspondences between the Mayan dates and the major stars only coincidences? Or are they simply illusions? For a proper judgment we need a table including also the 3 remaining ancient dates from the Koba inscriptions:

August 14, 3114 BC Ga6-11 (151) AUGUST 19 (231) ARCTURUS FEBRUARY 18 (49) MIRA
September 2, 3114 BC Ga7-1 (170) SEPTEMBER 7 (250) NUSAKAN MARCH 9 (68) no star listed
August 7, 3113 BC Ga6-4 (144) AUGUST 12 (224) BENETNASH FEBRUARY 11 (407) POLARIS
May 1, 3094 BC Ga2-16 (46) MAY 6 (126) no star listed NOVEMBER 5 (*229) ALRAMI
 
November 15, 2720 BC Gb1-10 (239) NOVEMBER 15 (319) τ AQUILAE MAY 16 (136) ω CANCRI
 
December 23, AD 2012 Ga8-8 (211) OCTOBER 18 (291) MENKAR APRIL 19 (*394) TEJAT PRIOR

To which perhaps should be added May 28, 3149 BC, when Itzam-Yeh (Seven-Macaw) was defeated, i.e. around (3149 - 2720) / 71 = 6 glyphs beyond MAY 28. Or rather 5 glyphs in order to keep the same time frame for the whole story of the change from the previous old creation:

MAY 25 (145) 26 (*66) 27 28
Ga3-6 Ga3-7 Ga3-8 Ga3-9 (68)
Āshleshā-9 / Willow-24

π¹ Ursa Majoris, δ HYDRAE (129.6), AL MINHAR AL SHUJĀ = σ Hydrae, MUSEIDA = π² Ursae Majoris (129.9)

RAS ALHAGUE (α Ophiuchi)

Al Nathrah-6

BEEHIVE = ε Cancri, η Pyxidis (130.4), XESTUS = ο Velorum (130.5), ζ Pyxidis (130.7), ASCELLUS BOREALIS = γ Cancri, β Pyxidis (130.9)

Extended Net-26a / Arkū-sha-nangaru-sha-shūtu-12 (Southeast Star in the Crab)

η Hydrae (131.0), ASCELLUS AUSTRALIS = δ Cancri (131.4), KOO SHE (Bow and Arrow) = δ Velorum (131.6), α Pyxidis (131.8), ε HYDRAE (131.9)

ι Cancri (132.0), ρ Hydrae (132.4)
July 28 29 (*130) 30 31 (212)
°July 24 25 26 (*127) 27 (208)
'July 1 2 3 (*104) 4 (185)
"June 17 18 19 (*90) 20 (171)
NAKSHATRA DATES:
NOVEMBER 24 25 26 (*250) 27 (331)
ROTANEV = β Delphini, ι Delphini (312.3), τ Capricorni (312.6), κ Delphini (312.7), SVALOCIN = α Delphini, υ Capricorni, υ Pavonis (312.8) μ², μ¹ Oct. (313.2), DENEB CYGNI = α Cygni (313.5), β Pavonis (313.6), δ Delphini (313.8) Al Sa’d al Bula'-21 / Dhanishta-24 / Girl-10

YUE (Battle-Axe) = ψ Capricorni (314.3), GIENAH CYGNI = ε Cygni, η Cephei (314.5), γ Delphini (314.6), σ Pavonis (314.7), ALBALI = ε Aquarii (314.8)

BETELGEUZE (α Orionis)

BATEN ALGIEDI = ω Capricorni (315.8)
January 27 (392) 28 29 (*314) 30
°January 23 24 25 (*310) 26
'December 31 'January 1 2 3 (*288)
"December 17 18 19 (*273) 20 (354)
MAY 29 30 31 (151) JUNE 1 2 (*73) 3 4
Ga3-10 Ga3-11 Ga3-12 Ga3-13 Ga3-14 (73) Ga3-15 Ga3-16
γ Pyxidis (133.6) ζ Hydrae (134.1), ρ Cancri (134.2), ζ Oct. (134.3), ο Cancri (134.6), δ Pyxidis (134.9) ACUBENS = α Cancri, TALITHA BOREALIS = ι Ursae Majoris (135.0), σ Cancri (135.2), ρ Ursa Majoris (135.6) ν Cancri (136.0), TALITHA AUSTRALIS = κ Ursae Majoris (136.1), ω Hydrae (136.8) 9h (137.0)

σ¹ Ursa Majoris (137.0), κ Cancri (137.3), τ Cancri (137.4), ALSUHAIL = λ Velorum (137.5), σ² Ursa Majoris (137.6), τ Ursa Majoris (137.7), ξ Cancri (137.8)

κ Pyxidis (138.0), ε Pyxidis (138.5) π Cancri (139.2), MIAPLACIDUS = β Carinae (139.3), TUREIS = ι Carinae (139.8)
August 1 2 3 (*500) 4 (216) 5 6 7
°July 28 29 (*130) 30 31 °August 1 2 (214) 3
'July 5 6 (*107) 7 8 9 (190) 10 11
SOLSTICE "June 22 (*93) 23 ST JOHN'S DAY 25 26 (177) 27
NAKSHATRA DATES:
NOVEMBER 28 29 30 (*254) DECEMBER 1 2 (336 = 4 * 84) 3 4
μ Aquarii (316.0) ε Equulei (317.8) no star listed (318) 21h (319.6)

ARMUS = η Capricorni (319.0), DORSUM = θ Capricorni (319.3), TSOO = 24 Capricorni (319.7)

DRAMASA = σ Oct., χ Capricorni (320.0), ν Aquarii (320.3), γ Equulei (320.6), ο Pavonis (320.8) α Oct. (321.5), δ Equulei (321.7), φ Capricorni (321.8) KITALPHA = α Equulei (322.0), ALDERAMIN = α Cephei (322.9)
January 31 February 1 2 3 4 (400) 5 (36) 6
°January 27 28 29 (*314) 30 31 (396) °February 1 2
'January 4 5 (*290) 6 7 (372) 8 9 10
SOLSTICE "December 22 23 X-MAS EVE 25 26 (360) 27

 

It has been stated, although I cannot for the moment recall where, that Itzam-Yeh was Ursa Major. This seems reasonable, because once upon a time Ursa Major had been closer to the north pole than today:

The Mayan date May 28 in the year 3149 BC was not mentioned in the Koba text and it could therefore have referred to the time when Aldebaran rose with the Sun in MARCH 25 (possible to write as 3-25 in order to allude to 26000 / 8). Indeed I immediately associated to Aldebaran at May 28 when I saw this ancient date for the first time:

FEBRUARY 9 10 11 (42) 12 (408) 13 (*329)
Gb7-22 Gb7-23 (204) Gb7-24 (80 + 354) Gb7-25 Gb7-26 (436)
ALSEIPH = φ Persei (24.5), τ Ceti (24.7) no star listed (25) ANA-NIA-10 (Pillar-to-fish by)

 χ Ceti (26.1), POLARIS = α Ursae Minoris, BATEN KAITOS = ζ Ceti (26.6), METALLAH = α Trianguli (26.9)

Al Sharatain-1 / Ashvini-1 / Bond-16 / Mahrū-sha-rishu-ku-1 (Front of the Head of Ku)

 SEGIN = ε Cassiopeia, MESARTHIM = γ Arietis, ψ Phoenicis (27.2), SHERATAN = β Arietis, φ Phoenicis (27.4)

ι Arietis (28.0), λ Arietis (28.2), υ Ceti (28.8)
4-14 (104) April 15 (*25) 16 (471) 17 (107) 18 (*393)
°April 10 (100) 11 (466) 12 13 14 (104)
'March 18 19 (78) 20 (*364) 0h (80) 22
"March 4 (428) 5 (64) 6 (*350) 7 8
35 0h (80 + 365) MARCH 22 (*1) 23 (82)
no glyph
Ga1-1 Ga1-2
HYADUM II = δ¹ Tauri (64.2) Net-19

AIN (Eye) = ε Tauri, θ¹ Tauri, θ² Tauri (65.7)

no star listed (66)
May 24 (*64 = 8 * 8) 25 (145 = 290 / 2) 26 (146 = 2 * 73)
°May 20 (140) 21 (*61) 22
'April 27 28 (118 = 4 * 29½) 29 (*39 = 3 * 13)
"April 13 14 (104 = 8 * 13) 15 (*25 = 5 * 5)
MARCH 24 (80 + 368) EQUINOX (84) 26 (*5) 27
Ga1-3 Ga1-4 Ga1-5 Ga1-6
no star listed (67) Rohini-4 / Pidnu-sha-Shame-4 (Furrow of Heaven) / ANA-MURI-2 (Rear pillar - at the foot of which was the place for tattooing)

ALDEBARAN = α Tauri (68.2), THEEMIN = υ² Eridani (68.5)

no star listed (69) no star listed (70)
May 27 28 (148) 29 30 (*70)
°May 23 24 (144 = 12 * 12) 25 (*65) 26
'April 30 'May 1 (121 = 11 * 11) 2 (*42) 3
"April 16 (471) 17 (107 = 290 - 183) 18 (*28) 19

Aldebaran was a fundamental and well known part of the current creation, but it was no longer at the northern spring equinox, no longer at the cardinal point. Therefore there was a similarity with Itzam-Yeh who no longer was at the top of the Ceiba. They were now both at the back side (in the past), they were star pillars only visible in the rear mirror.

... For the Maori the past is an important and pervasive dimension of the present and future. Often referred to as the 'ever-present now', Maori social reality is perceived as though looking back in time from the past to the present. The Maori word for 'the front of' is mua and this is used as a term to describe the past, that is, Nga wa o mua or the time in front of us. Likewise, the word for the back is muri which is a term that is used for the future. Thus the past is in front of us, it is known; the future is behind us, unknown. The point of this is that our ancestors always had their backs to the future with their eyes firmly on the past ...